McDojo - I'd say most McDojos teach technique correctly, they just rush the students belt to belt much too quickly. The don't explain why the techniques are done in a certain way and possible defenses and so on. With a McDojo, at least someone is watching the students and correcting them. Most owners of McDojos are in actuality, very good at their art. They probably started out trying to run a legitimate dojo and struggled to stay in business, so they caved to the mighty dollar.

A Youtuber has no one correcting their bad technique and never tries these techniques against a live opponent.

I hate these questions as they imply having skill or knowing a certain a martial art will help ensure that you'll win in a real fight.

The reality is that even a well trained martial artist in a respected art can lose a street or bar fight. What's often not discussed is that the element of surprise, lucky shots, and mistakes can and do happen.

In the real world fights are ugly, dirty things. They're not predictable and there are no rules. When one is fighting "for real" there are not teachers or refs to break things up. Yes someone may jump in but the opposite may also happen and that one may go down and get attacked until they're killed or so badly beaten that they require medical attention..

Now sure someone with some formal training has an advantage over someone who doesn't. And having someone correct your mistakes is better than just watching video, but there are no certainties when in a fight as people will do whatever they can to win and to get out of the situation. Hence why some of us train our students that the best fight is no fight and the second best fight is the one you end quickly.

So the answer is we don't know. Give the advantage to the McStudent but if the Youtuber is a fighter and is bigger, stronger, meaner, etc they could take that edge away and have their own.

The McDojo. That goes double if it is a smart student. The thing you are missing is that every successful McDojo has at least one true master in the building. Sure you share him with dozens or hundreds of students, but you still have a master in the building. You don't get that on you tube. If this goes long, skip to the last paragraph.

I know that the McDojo idea upsets a lot of people who think that a student who knows nothing should accept the tutelage of a master and be trained by him until he is a master himself--but that's how it works in the movies. In real life people pay for 'karate' lessons. They may try it for a few months and quit. They may stick with it for years or a lifetime. But no one quits their job and joins a monastery to train--except Batman. Heck, many 'students' are kids who have parents that wanted a babysitter who would give them some exercise too.

So, if you were a martial arts master opening your dojo, do you demand that students sign a year contract before you give them a lesson? While you can't teach them anything in less than a year, you are asking them to fork over a lot of money when you haven't proven anything to them. Do you give them two months of lessons so they can try it out before deciding to commit? Do you turn away cash money from parents who care more about the babysitter than karate? Do you allow a black belt who could never open his own dojo to babysit for you, so that you can train students that are more committed? If you have a dedicated student who can't afford to train with you, do you say "good bye" or do you train him for free because you made enough hiring a babysitter for the kids that you don't really need the money and can afford to volunteer.

Often when you see a McDojo, what you are seeing is the owner dealing with the realities of running a business. He soon figures out that if he babysits enough kids, that he can afford to hire more babysitters and bring in more money. Then he can afford to bring in more masters, and/or has free time to teach advanced students himself. Soon the McDojo owner ends up with a small core class of dedicated advanced students--all funded by the babysitting operation. After a few years of being a businessman, the McDojo owner can finally afford to do what he was trying to do--teach martial arts to dedicated students who want to learn from him. (If a student is not in one of these advanced classes, normally the classes will be 'one size fits all', but normally the teachers will give extra help to students who have the initiative to ask questions and get help at an appropriate time. The class itself might be substandard, but he can talk to the master or another instructor during and after the class.)

In short, don't dismiss someone just for making money or having too many students. Some use that money to get better assistants and to make their school better.

Who's lazier: the guy who gets off his **** and marches into a dojang, or the guy who can't get off the couch and watches youtube from that couch?

I've seen more than a few folks go on to national tournaments, bred only from a McDojo by some people's standards.

Honestly - i think the youtuber because the 320lb overweight lounge lizard will be just too much for a 6 year old 8th dan black belt to handle

in my opinion it depend on you,but a dojo would be better. still I believe in youtubers because i'm one i train a dojo and watch youtube that's why I know things my friends don't and I Took a bjj guy with a street neck lock but he made me tap, he was training 2 years me none anyway it depend on you why not both ;) no money then youtube :P

I want to know who is more likely to win a fight a guy who goes to a McDojo where their not really taught correctly and it's pretty lazy or a guy who picks up all his moves from watching fights and techniques on YouTube?