> Should winning in the UFC via submission be banned?

Should winning in the UFC via submission be banned?

Posted at: 2015-05-07 
"Almost anyone can apply submission moves, so isn't winning by submission just too easy and unfair to your opponents?"

Spoken like someone who doesn't understand a thing about submissions. It's actually much easier to score a knockout than get a sub. It requires a very specialized sort of skill backed up with good timing. Literally any idiot can ball up their fists and swing away as hard as they can.

People tap out to submissions because if they didn't, they'd go unconscious or suffer a broken limb. That's about a decisive a victory as it gets. They admit that they're beaten so they don't suffer a severe injury.

ufc is a organization of MMA MIXED MARTIAL ARTS not kickboxing. bjj is a huge part of MMA as is striking but when the opponent taps that means the quit. and quitting is the same as losing. its not easy to get people that know what they are doing into a sub it takes ALOT of energy and skill. a win is a win and is MMA you can win in various ways watch ufc 1 to see how affective bjj is. also there has been many times where people tap from strikes and verbally tap after the round so like I said a tap is a loss. but if u just want to see stand up and KO then I suggest watching boxing,K1, and GLORY

Ground game and submission fighting are for those who are poor strikers. They lack speed, technique, and the skill to deal with these strikes so they run to their opponents and hug them, restrict their movements ( they get into their safety zone ) and tackle them to the ground. Then they tie up their opponent and go for a submission. In reality this petty trick will get one killed but the ufc/mma is a sport and so if it is to be used anywhere, let it be a cage. While I dont feel as though ground fighting shows any skill as a fighter its popular in the ufc and isnt going anywhere anytime soon.

I'm not a huge fan of grappling from a spectator point of view because it's just so damn slow, people tell me it's because I don't understand but that's a load of bull, I understand both chess and grappling but neither is entertaining to watch because both are dull.

Here's the kicker and why grappling not only stays in these competitions it has plenty of relevance to real-world fighting - getting submitted in the real world is possibly the single most embarrassing way to lose.

You pull a person's arm into a lock-down and hold them until they start crying and begging their friends for help then not only have they lost the fight they've lost the respect of everyone in the immediate vicinity.

The problem with this line of reasoning is that fighters also tap out as a result of being punched in the face. A tap out implies that the fighter getting his limb cranked, his neck choked, or his face pounded is in a position that he can't get out of. MMA is like a brutal form of chess and the fighter tapping out has no place to move his queen. It's checkmate!

The fight ends because submissions put your opponent into a state where he can no longer fight. A choke hold will put a person unconscious same as a punch and kill them if held a bit longer. Joint locks don't KO them but you can't fight if they finish them. I'd like to see you try and fight someone after they've broken your arm in half.

um...i don't think you actually know how hard it is to put your opponent in a submission while he/she is resisting. Another point i'd like to make is that putting your opponent in a submission is generally much safer than knocking him/her out(TKO).

I mean, MMA fighters can still use their submission moves, but when their opponents tap out, they need to let them go but shouldn't win the fight yet. People should win fights by KO, TKO, or by decision. After you make someone tap out, they're still conscious, you just hurt them temporarily. Almost anyone can apply submission moves, so isn't winning by submission just too easy and unfair to your opponents? Isn't it almost cheating? If you can't knock someone out, you submit them? What are your thoughts?