Few TKD schools teach this (the grappling in TKD), most of the black belts I've seen (WTF and ITF) do not know how to fall or roll, and would not know what to do when on the ground.
So no, it is not standard curriculum in ITF, which is officially only sparring and breaking. Schools ARE encouraged to include other things - like self-defense (which always seem to result in static defenses against punches - and little else.) You occasionally come across places that put more emphasis on weapon use (they even call them nunchucks...) than they do self-defense.
Any ITF schools directly aligned with Canadian-headquartered ITF will have some self-defense added into their core - but from what I've seen, qualities varies from poor to mediocre. There are no North Korea-headquartered ITF schools outside of North Korea, but, many DPRK schools seem to have self-defense curriculum, judging by the few YT clips they post. I don't know of any ITF school affiliated with the Austrian-based ITF, so I can't say what their curriculum is like.
Not sure if all ITF TKD do this. There is grappling in TKD. It is taught at blackbelt levels,
And as for that second technique. I seen it done before. And i have tried something like that as well. Part of it is what he did th the opponents hips by lifting it up he removes the center of gravity of the body he created a air gap. And he shifted the opponents body away from his upper body. And yes you can situp that easily when done correctly.
I'm interested in hearing what someone from the ITF has to say.
I don't think that is regularly taught in the ITF, but I could be wrong as I have personal experience with the ITF.
Personally, I can tell you that instructor would be hurting if he does this in my dojo. He gets up easily as the pupil is going along with the instructor as this is a teaching moment.
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Don't take me the wrong way. I give credit to him for doing this. But nothing is that easy other than for training purposes like this one. It looks like to me that he has copied some things he has seen or maybe someone has taught him a few things because of the mma popularity. He even uses the terminology of mma or bjj. He didn't use Korean terminology.
I don't want to say something is or isn't practical. What he done may work on some people with no experience, but it will be a greater struggle with those with knowledge and experience.
Man, butterfly guard is my jam! He's not really so much sitting up as hanging onto his opponent, and being PULLED up, as he's sending him backwards. Although keeping the abs tight and getting a bit of a teeter-totter motion by extending your legs can help. I spar with larger partners all the time (my most regular guy outweighs me by at least 30lbs) and I've been able to get that more than a few times.. The key to most guard work is pulling the guy in tight, and that's what helps him come up to his butt: he's tied to a guy who is moving away from him. Trust me, I'm out of shape these days and couldn't out-muscle these guys if I tried, but that entry works.
The reverse stand-up (the movement at around 3:10, at least as I learned it) is also legit. It's harder if the guy is driving into you, but if your non-support arm (his left, in this case) is driving into your opponent, particularly the side of his head in order to take his spine out of alignment and get his weight moving away from you, it'll work with a fairly high degree of success. It has to be quick, though, and frankly I didn't think he was giving enough pressure with his non-supporting (left) hand. But again, it's legit, and I probably hit it more than the first move.
I wish I watched enough grappling matches to be able to show you clips of guys using this when they ARE going full resistance. Like you say, it's easier felt than seen, and I get that, but they're techniques I have pulled off multiple times against stronger guys who are trying to smash me to the ground and keep me from doing them.
It's great to see that some instructors are beginning to discover that GROUND grappling techniques DO exist within their forms.
You have to give credit to this person. It may not be 100%, but the effort is commendable. In time, certain things that would be considered not sensible will be worked out and refined.
Kudos to him.
I wanted to share this but I also wanted opinions on it. Some of the techniques in the video seem good but the second one in particular I'm having trouble finding it a feasible technique to use. I just don't (would probably need it demonstrated on me) see how one could easily just "sit up" in that
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lv4HxmxcmQ
I was curious, for anyone in ITF, is this found anywhere in the main curriculum or is this school specific?
