1. Quick as you can with control.
2. As far as you can. The arm should snap far before you get to even inflexible person's limit. If it doesn't then you aren't doing it right.
3. Yes, because it's your whole body against one bicep.
4. the joint will snap. The comparison I heard was twisting the turkey's leg off on thanksgiving. You'll get a similar feel then the pop.
If possible though it would be better to just put the attacker to sleep. It's more likely to completely stop the attacker, and you don't deal any life long damages.
In BJJ there are such things as high risk and low risk submissions. High Risk subs means you'll lose position if you fail to successfully perform the submission. Low risk subs mean you won't really lose position if you fail to successfully perform a submission. Armbars in general are high risk submissions. From mount, you're falling onto your back, allowing your opponent to stack up again if for some reason you don't perform the armbar. From guard, they again could stack you and land in your side control.
It's for this reason that I would not advocate throwing an armbar in a fight. If the opportunity presents itself, go for it. But don't go looking for it. Look for something that won't put you in a bad position, like kimura's, americana's, chokes, etc...
Anyways to answer your questions:
1. We raise our hips slowly as to not hurt our opponent. It also serves as a form of control. I would say to raise them quicker than normal, but a huge bump could cause you to lose the arm. So do it as quick as possible as to where you can still maintain control.
2. Until you hit that breaking point. Again, do it to where you aren't losing control.
3. It's very possible for a guy to muscle out of it. But for the most part if you're controlling the arm and body right, then you don't have to worry about it.
4. You are hyper-extending their elbow, causing their arm to break. Your hips are acting as the fulcum and your hands are holding onto their arm (the lever).
I think you are over thinking something very simple and by the sound of it I don't think you have done enough sparring. In real life or in a fight you simple press up your hip until you hear a snap. Or if it's sparring until the other person taps out.
I could be wrong but it does sound like you need some good old fashioned rolling on the mat with an opponent. Go for it 100%. Try and make him/her tap out and they will do it to you. When it hurts you tap out and try again. That is it. If your club isn't sparring you should consider switching.
1. Raise your hips quickly.
2. As high as you can without losing control.
3. You definitely have the power to break someone's arm.
4. Their arm could break, dislocate, you become injured in a different way.
The arm bar is actually a bread and butter self defence move for me.arm as part of a countering technique I use my boxing skills to strike with my opponent and when he commits to even on punch or serious forward moment I do a judo sweep called osoto gari or anything to get him down.hard with control of a arm from there I stay on my two feet with control of one arm. From there I do a standing arm bar by putting one or my feet under my attackers back the other on or over his neck so if he grabs my leg I can kill him. Then I hyper extend the arm and either yank there pinky away from me violently Which obliterate there elbow and follow up with stomps to the face if needed or I hyper extend there arm release my foot from over or on there throat and kick there elbow joint Out. if following up is dangerous. I would tend to shy away from ground armbars and if I was in a position where I got a ground arm bar I'd use it to stand up in a street fight.
I too am a woman and In a self defense situation you rarely use the common armbar unless it is presented to you and the situation is right to do so. If it is the right situation and time to use it then you raise the hips hard and fast and maintain pressure and dont let go until you have destroyed that arm. Just destroy that arm. If it is self defense then you are well within your right to cause the damage required to survive.
For me personally if it is a self defense situation then rest assured i will tear and snap every muscle, tendon, ligament and bone in the arm if i have to.
John is right that you are over thinking it because in a self defense situation you will just do it instictively once you are experienced enough.
Dont get the illusion that the arm bar is nearly impossible to escape, trust me there are many ways to escape it if you have the knowledge. It is just a tool in the arsenal it is not the perfect tool and it is only a tool to be used in certain scenarios because the common arm bar from the ground engages most of the body leaving you exposed from other threats, therefore when you use this you must break and destroy as fast as possible then get back to your feet even faster, this should take 5-6 seconds or so. You never know where the next threat can come from so its easier to destroy the threat then get back to your feet prepared for the next threat.
I have been training BJJ for about 3 years now. I have definitely learnt a lot :)
However when we practice how to apply different submission, including the armbar. We are never told how use it "in real life". I mean when I start to apply preasure to my opponents arm by lifting my hips slooowly upwards. He/she taps almost immediately and I release the submission instantly (of course).
But I started thinking, in a self-defence situation, how should I then perform the armbar? If the goal is achive so much "damage" and incapacity to the attacker.
1. Should I raise my hip slowly or should I raise it quick?
2. How far should I raise my hips? (I'm quite flexible as I also train Yoga)
3. I′m quite regular girl, so I wonder if have power to break a guys arm?
4. What will happen to the attackers arm?
Thanks for your help!
I have found that the armbar, should be quite effective in IRL. Because it's almost impossible to escape when it's applied, even on a guy. But my concern is if it don′t have any effect when it's "pull trough" - as you cannot test it.
