> Should I change karate clubs?

Should I change karate clubs?

Posted at: 2014-09-13 
Pay back is a *****......you were trying to be rough and tough and learned that you are neither...now you want to run away....

No need for you to continue with martial arts training...take up non contact knitting....

Apparently, you seem to be under the illusion that you can be rough with others and others are not allow to pay you back in turn. I'll bet this was not the first time you were a "bit rougher" than you intended, but now you got a taste of your own medicine. In all probability, others have complained to the sensei and he had already warned you before, but you didn't take the hint so he made sure you understood it. How am I doing so far? You want to change schools, go right ahead. Maybe the next one will just let you knock others around and never retaliate.

You wanted to learn to fight and this is what happens to people in a fight - a real fight.

Welcome to pain no offense. Ay, some may call that excessive, but that's a hit. And ay, it hurts getting hit in the solar plexus period. But that's how things are to a degree. Like Liondancer mentioned, oldschool type training. Ive been struck too.

It's good for me and good for you. That is pain, and it's something one should feel as a martial artist.

In my opinion, and no offense to you at all, suck it up and move on.

Pain is temporary. You'll live.

Now if he knocked you down to your knees and kicked you in the stomach... that would be excessive.

If you admit in your post that you were 'a little bit rougher than intended' which btw translates into you had no control, then often on the receiving end where your Sensei was and prior to that his students it was a lot rougher. I know many Sensei who deal with students like you in the same manner. It's old school. It is the only way some people understand what it feels like when your partner is out of control. Would you have stopped if your teacher had simply told you to lay it off? Apparently from your post you already knew that you were going rougher than you should have so why didn't you have the decency to lay off prior to getting hit? It is a liability to have a student like you in the dojo who thinks they can go rough while everybody else follows the rules and uses control. In a dojo EVERYBODY has to follow the rules no exceptions or someone gets hurt which is what your Sensei was trying to show you. Now you have the choice to fall in or fall out.

So be smart, go to the next class apologize to your Sensei, tell him that you will do a better job of following his instructions and use better control and then follow through. Running away from your mistakes and joining somewhere else will teach you nothing. Take it as a learning experience. It sounds to me like you are in a really good school which is hard to come by. They can hit hard and are not afraid to do so either. Don't throw that away over something stupid you did. It will probably not be the only stupid thing you will do. Be a man and face up to it.

Go talk for it

Go talk to your Sensei.

You didn't say how long you've trained with him, or what you're relationship is so we have no way of knowing what went on.

My gut feeling is that he did that to show you that you need to work on your control. My other gut feeling is that like everyone else he's human and he might have got a little rougher than he had planned. Of course no one be he knows so you need to talk to him.

Now when you talk to him don't attack, just tell him you have something you want to discuss. Use the discussion as a chance to learn and to grow as a person. Find out if there is an issue other than the roughness and how to address it. Then you can make a decision if you should keep training there or move on.

I suspect if you talk to him you'll find that you advance more as a martial artist and as a person.

oh and FYI. Contrary to what some MMA fanboys think, there are many ways to spar. And you should learn to mix up the ways you spar to become better. All out is what the fanboys advocate, but as you're learning, control is very important. Timing is important, positioning is important. ETC ETC and you can't do those things when you're going all out all the time. Hence the need to mix things up

Maybe you need it

Hi all,

I've recently begun learning shotokan karate at my local club, and I was sparring fairly well last night, and when we swapped partners I was sparring with the sensei, I was doing standard sparring practice, semi contact so nobody gets hurt, and I was a bit rougher than I intended and pushed him back a little bit with my punches, he then oi tsuki (lunge punch) to my solar plexus with full strength, making me fall to one knee hardly able to breathe and almost vomiting, I feel this was excessive force so I'm not sure if it's worth joining another club where sparring is done to learn fighting and not to cause potential internal injury, any thoughts?