Poking someone in the eye is not really dangerous for the person doing the poking. It is more dangerous for the person being poked.
Tyrone, I just saw the question you asked me about a typical workout. I cannot really answer that question in a public forum because there are training methods that Kajukenbo instructors do not acknowledge that they exist. I would imagine that the reason for the secrecy is that if the general public knew in advance what the training methods really are, no one would want to try a free class.
If you contact me by sending me an e-mail, I can tell you what a typical workout is like, but only the parts where I am allowed to discuss.
There is some silliness here with no basis in reality going on. I have worked in the medical field as a technician for a medical optometrist in the past and seen quite a few eye injuries. Some of them went to ophthalmologists and some could be handled right in our location. I've seen somebody come in with a hurt eye because a small rock got kicked up and flew into it while the patient was out dirt bike riding with some friends. It hit him going quite fast and the eye was merely scratched. That's only ONE incident, too. The eye is more durable than you think, plus it pushes in when you press on it and on top of that people will usually flinch or move away from an attack to the eyes. They're a small target to boot, so to count on any kind of attack to the eye is pretty silly unless you're in a grappling situation and so close that you can smell their breath.
For proof of how tough the eye actually is, refer to the Yuki Nakai vs. Gerard Gordeau fight. While Yuki Nakai did eventually go blind, his eye never ruptured.
As for why you would use the fingers: Do you wear contact lenses? If so, then you know it's a stupid idea to try to put them in with your knuckles. It's like trying to golf with a softball - Good luck getting it into the hole.
The finger is used to get greater penetration and increase the opportunity to "relieve" them of their "oculus orb". It also allows more reach, by a couple of inches. The projected knuckle can be used quite effectively if you do not wish to remove the eye, and it is safer on your hand if you should happen to miss and strike the cheek, or forehead.
I would say it is more of a personal choice once the techniques are learned. I prefer the fingers because of the "open hand" manner in which I carry my hands while they are at "guard". It is a hand position my father referred to as "Monkey's Paw", fingers extended rigidly, tips pulled slightly back under towards the palm, thumb braced firmly alongside the edge of the palm. It's a basic "spear-hand" that is slightly cupped. It can be used in that position for many different strikes, parries, and blocks. Or, it can be closed rapidly into a full fist, or a half fist by just rolling the top knuckles.
So i assume you mean an eye gouge??
The damage a finger can do is so much more than a knuckle, firstly it can have deeper penetration (hey, what do you know size does matter for good penetration lol) plus you can twist and screw you finger into the eye. The eye does NOT need much force to rupture it, in fact a little child can easily rupture an adults eye. So the force is not needed. Add to that the fact that the end on the finger has sharp finger nails, skins and can rotate and hook this makes it a much more formidable weapon for an eye gouge then driving a knuckle into the eye.
Whatever makes you happy :]
because its not a simple jab your taking the eyeball out of the socket with the finger, there is more to the technique then you described. and no im not going into exact detail.
you can get results with a palm heel strike to the eye socket at impact you give your palm a nice twist and have a much less chance of permanent damage, but still get a good reaction out of the person
Names aren't always accurate.
The move you described first is usually or at least more accurately called an eye poke or an eye gouge but people have a habit of being lazy and not doing their research so they just put two words they do know together and you wind up with a single finger spear hand to the eye being called an eye jab.
So the orthadox way to jab at someones eye is to move your finger fastly into someones eye. Why not use a knuckle? You could hit harder without as much risk of injury. It would litterally be a jab to the eye. Am i missing something? Why would you use a finger over the knuckle?
