It's unfortunate, but some teachers just don't know what they're doing. They either don't know how to be a good teacher, and/or they simply don't know enough to actually teach. This goes further than the mass of Karate schools out there.
Karate can be very effective. You just need a teacher that truly knows what he's doing, and how to explain things properly. Many teachers have a student learn some drills and kata without ever explaining things, having the student rely on some unseen trust. That might have worked a hundred years ago, but doesn't fly today. It's a teachers duty to explain what it is, what it's for, and how it's going to work.
MMA is also a very competitive scene. Many MMA students have a "style vs style" mentality, not a "person vs person" way of thinking, let alone a "you vs yourself" mind of being. MMA has a lot of biased opinions, and quite arrogant, thinking their sport proves everything. This woman could have easily been influenced by the mass of MMA ego. When it comes to mainstream MMA, it's what they say or nothing.
She is correct in some cases. In some schools karate is just for show. But karate is not the only one that suffers from this problem. MMA, Juijtisu, Tai Kwon Do, and just about any style you can name, has schools out there that look to make it just for show.
Where she is incorrect is that she seems to believe this is the case all the time. As though Karate was designed just for a big show. It wasn't. As such, it's entirely possible to find a school that will teach it the way it was meant to be taught: as a basis for self defense.
(If she thinks MMA is not for show, she's really ignorant because that's what it was designed for! To be used in televised fights! Silly girl. Yes it's full contact, but that doesn't mean "realistic" and "not for show".)
That's why it's important as a prospective student to look not just at the style, but also at the teacher, the other students, and the whole attitude of the school. And there might be times where you end up getting into it for a few months, and then realize "Okay this school just teaches for show and money." That's okay. Just leave and find another.
karate is useful and like any style it all depends upon the instructor and how you train.
there are a number of mma people that have karate backgrounds. in fact here is a list of over a hundred
http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f61/30-...
ignore the person calling himself karate, he knows nothing about karate and about 2 hours ago he claimed he was only training two years and a brown belt. now he has been training for 4 years and claimed to be a second degree
2nd goju ryu is not like shotokan the hip movements, stances, tactics are a lot different between the two systems, anyone with less then a year of karate knows this.
karate is also not like kickboxing
this is what karate can look like
It's all what you train. She may have been in a school that teaches exhibition martial arts which is just for show and the applications are not taught.
Keep in mind ALL martial art can be taught many different ways and for many different reasons. A style is never a guarantee that you will learn what you want to learn. Pick a teacher instead who teaches what you want to learn and don't focus so much on style.
I'm not real familiar with Goju but I've trained for a few years off and on with a friend of mine that is a 4th degree BB in Shorin Ryu. I love the guy to death but they teach some pretty unrealistic stuff. He's an instructor and owner of a Dojo here in MN.
It really depends on the instructor. The term McDojo gets thrown around a lot to describe this. Essentially it’s usually a low ranking member of a style who opens a dojo because they want to earn money, and they just stick to just drilling forms and handing out belts.
I’m not saying forms are bad to learn, but these guys just teach the forms without any input on what it means(mainly because they themselves don't know). And without much of other exercise or drills being taught, you just have sequenced dance. You want to find a place that explains the forms, forms are only a part of the training not ‘THE training’, and a healthy dose of sparring.
Simply put, think of forms as textbooks. You want a teacher to teach off textbooks, but also have their own materials to add to the textbook. You don’t want a teacher you just tells you to read the textbook aloud in class and that’s the whole class.
I am learning karate from the last month,I am not very experienced,but I feel confident that I can easily defend myself in road against a person with non martial art background,every martial arts have its advantages & disadvantages & unique.in their own way,she probably left karate bcoz the drills are tougher & boxing/kicking are taught slowly & not in the very first class
It depends on the school in which you are studying, not the style name. There are some schools that teach Karate for show, some for competition, and some for real self defense. It all depends on how you train and who you learn it from (your instructor).
Karate is not useful if you are desiring to learn how to be a astronaut, chemist.
It is useful if you want to learn self defense. It starts with having a good instructor and you being a good student and learning how to apply what you are being taught.
If you're at a good dojo, and you use it when needed then it is. It isn't "useful" in the MMA until you get adapted to the rules.
I went to a mma session a while back and some girl was telling me that she used to do karate but she quit because it wasn't realistic enough and just for show? Please answer because I was gonna consider learning goju ryu Karate.
Here is an honest answer from me having training in shotokan which is similar to goju ryu for 4 years now, karate is a slow martial art you don't even learn proper free sparring which is like kickboxing till you get to brown belt and that takes 4 years so the long wait is boring and a dull process, the patterns are useless in a fight situation as they are designed for an attacker to stand still after they throw a punch or kick lol realistic or nay?, karate is impractical because of this you can't do a martial art that is effective from the start, karate is not effective at all its slow,mma, jiu jitsu, kickboxing, boxing, krav maga to name a few are excellent, you learn straight of moves that are useful for full contact not moving in patterns that you'll never use in a real fight situatiion, she clearly left because it has no practical use in fight scenarios which is true as you can't use patterns in a fight and its a long process, mma is great like jiu jitsu start straight away and you learn how to defend and strike! Karate has none of this till even after black belt! So don't do karate! You'll be wasting your time and money and a lot are McDojo's so don't do it! Mma, jiu jitsu, boxing kickboxing etc full contact from start no B.S.! I'm in my first week of jiu jitsu and I learnt more in 4 years of karate on how to defend do joint locks and throws and strikes! Cheers!
karate can be very useful. depends how its taught.
