> Complicated joint locks in real life?

Complicated joint locks in real life?

Posted at: 2014-09-13 
The most effective techniques in real life and in the ring are usually the simplest ones. The more complicated a technique is the more things need to click in order for it to work. His arm has to be there at that exact moment, you have to move a certain direction in X amount of time and so on, and so on. It's good to practice these techniques cause sometimes you can execute a part of them and it's fun to do it but they rarely work. I wouldn't recommend anyone to rely on a complicated technique to get out of a sticky situation.

I mean yeah you can jump up in the air and do 3 backflips, spin 720 degrees and then kick someone but why when a simple round house kick will do the trick? You need to mix it up to get through your opponents defense but not that much.

Watch mma, any person with martial arts experience knows how to get out of an arm bar, it doesn't take a genius. If the person you are confronting knows some martial arts things such as shoulder bars and knee locks and come in very handy.

You don't; just walk up to someone and apply a joint lock. You learn joint locks.throws etc so that if during striking an opportunity arises then you take it, but they are not your "main arsenal", that is striking.

finger locks, underarm joint locks are not that easy...you will have to be able to have full control... underarm locks wont make you tap out but will leave the arm useless and only work from behind.... bigger limbs are easier to be able to use locks arms, legs etc..... you can make some one submit with a toe lock.. in less they don't mind have a broken toe... You don't see many people do finger locks in MMA every once in awhile a guy will use it... if your in a street fight you can easily use a finger lock...locks just depend on how good you are at them...

No. The more complicated a technique, the less chance of success and opportunities to apply it, especially against an experienced fighter or someone who has gone berserk . The complicated techniques can be used against someone who is for example impaired such as a drunk or been "softened up", but what's the point?

Well to me it is a matter of risk management. I don't believe that martial artists have a "win every fight" magical elixir. Size still matters, numbers still matter, and surprise and preparedness matter most of all. And what if the other dude has a gun? So it's no guarantee.

However, it's still better to be a martial artist than not for so many reasons.

One is that you have already suffered pain. A sucker punch is going to hurt very badly but you have a better chance of still being operational because you have trained through pain before. In a real fight, you have to be prepared to lose some teeth, break some ribs, and still be good to go.

Two is that you will have better body control. If you are in the bar and the guy's buddy tries to grab your arms and hold you for the suckerpunch (typical bar brawler cowardice) then your balance, situational awareness, elusiveness and ability to escape would be better than if you weren't a martial artist.

Three is that you will have some technique, the most important one is that you will be breathing. I think the most natural thing for people to do in a crisis is hold their breath, whereas the thing they have you do over and over and over in training is to repeat your blows for a freaking unnatural amount of reps. Part of that is to learn how to hit but I think the main thing is that you will continue to get oxygen whereas the untrained person is going to be passing out very soon.

Does this work in real life? I can't really say. I have rarely been threatened and I have talked the other guy down every time (while putting myself in range of his balls and throat and eyes, just in case he was very crazy). I do know that I did not feel completely helpless during these encounters.

I'm not Mr. Macho Oblivious. I was properly scared, particularly afterwards, but at the time I was able to function with steady voice, steady brain, consider the threat, consider options, anticipate his moves and so on. That's training, I believe.

Are the really complicated joint locks applicable in real life? They take years of practice and many have mastered them. I haven't gotten anywhere near that point (with only around a year of martial arts), but does anybody with experience in some martial art that has these locks think that they would work easily in a real life encounter? Or would it be easier to stick with the simple arm-barring techniques that I've already come across?