> Can someone tell me how these are takedowns called?

Can someone tell me how these are takedowns called?

Posted at: 2014-09-13 
I have a different take on those take downs.

The 1st one was a double leg take down attempt. But he didn't break his balance and then out of desperation went for the head and they went down

The 2nd one was a single leg take down attempt. He began to turn the guy when he didn't break the balance on the initial attempt. Great idea, but in the process he lost the leg and got lucky as the guy fell.

Edit:

I'll accept callsign explanations.. However, I still stand by what I said. Desperation may be a bit much. But the end result was a take down so it was effective.

On the 2nd video the balance wasn't "initially" broken. The key word initially. It was broken. He was standing on one leg. His balance wasn't taken, only compromised. He drop the leg and the guy still fell. This is why I call it lucky. If I have the leg it is mine. I'm not letting go unless I'm transitioning to something different. There was no transition. He pounced on the guy to take advantage of his compromising position. Nothing wrong with that. It was the smart thing to do for that situation. But if I have it in my hand it is a gift. I don't return gifts. I used them to my advantage.

#1 wasn't a true double-leg since he didn't have hold of both legs. It started off as a double, but when Gustafsson got the underhook, he switched off to a knee tap variation. Unlike jwbulldogs, I wouldn't call it "desperation". It's a common reaction that Jones probably trained (and hit in wrestling competition) several times. A knee tap works by driving the opponent's upper body laterally over one of his legs while simultaneously "tapping" the knee in order to keep him from re-adjusting.

#2 is a little harder to classify. He only got one leg up, so it's easy to call it a single, but the entry might fall into the "double leg" class as I was taught them, because the opponent's far hip is still technically part of his leg. At any rate, I'll disagree with jwbulldogs again in that he DID initially break his balance (that's why he was on one leg...) and the finish was your basic dump/running the pipe single. It's technique, not "getting lucky".

Edit: "He drop the leg and the guy still fell"

He didn't drop the leg. He swung it. He lost his grip on it, but dude was going down. Which is no small feat when the guy you're trying to take down is an NAIA All-American wrestler and Washington State runner-up. Who is also, I should mention, ranked as the #5 LW of all time and #10 fighter overall in divisional dominance by Fight Matrix.

"But if I have it in my hand it is a gift. I don't return gifts. I used them to my advantage."

Yeah, in a perfect world. But not against a REALLY GOOD FIGHTER. The real world, real fights, aren't perfect, and nothing goes uncontested unless the guy you're facing sucks. That was not the case.

Incidentally, how much have you studied Western wrestling? Because it seems to me that you're ignorant of the flow and technique common to it.

Edit 2: Incidentally, this is what can happen if you "don't return gifts"



KW beat me to it.

Jones takes gus in last round - 6:18 on video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IlmFpQH81c

Frankie takes ben down- 12:09 on video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsDWmQ7al4U

They grab leg with only one arm and they rotate and with other hand jones grabbed head and frankie hip. I never learned these takedowns on training but it seems like they are very often.